Richard Moss's 1990 Sterling

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Richard Moss's 1990 Sterling

Post by richard moss » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:01 am

July 1st:

One whole day, 20 miles and no breakdowns!

I've replaced these:

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with these:

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I bought them from this seller on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=005 for just £6.49 for the pair inc bulbs and postage. They're much better quality than the last pair I bought.
1990 827 Sterling manual
1990 Jaguar Sovereign 4 Litre on LPG
1969 MGC GT (currently hibernating)

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Post by richard moss » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:01 am

Well, it wasn't a great distance to Lichfield and back but 29.5 mpg can't be bad!

The tappets are still a bit rattly (OK, a lot rattly) so it will need another oil change soon. The oil in there is just some cheap stuff for the purposes of flushing through.

The OSR window mechanism packed up on friday - with the window DOWN! I've nicked the good one from my 820 fastback, that will be fitted when the rain stops.

There's some slop in the gearchange because of wear in the hole in the UJ where the roll pin fixes it to the gearbox selector shaft.

One of the front wheels is a bit unbalanced and I think the tracking's out a bit.

Other than that, it seems pretty much there. However, I've noticed that the Sterling does a good Red Arrows impression on startup so I'm a little worried about it. Smoke is never a good sign in a car engine.

It goes well enough, and the oil pressure warning light is out, although the tappet rattle is awful (really awful) until you give it some revs. I do need to change the oil once more, it's just got some cheap crap in there to flush - so maybe it's getting past the valve seals (to cause smoke) and not pumping up the tappets properly (hence rattle).
It's not using a significant amount of oil, so it will get fresh oil and filter at the weekend.
1990 827 Sterling manual
1990 Jaguar Sovereign 4 Litre on LPG
1969 MGC GT (currently hibernating)

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Richard Moss's 1990 Sterling

Post by richard moss » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:02 am

July 13th:

It's now running on LPG. There are still two connections to sort out - RPM and throttle position sensor (for enrichment at high loads) - but it seems to run pretty well already. There should be a connection to the Lambda sensor but as the car doesn't have any, the RPM and TPS should suffice.

General engine bay shot:
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Tank:
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Filler:
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Underneath:
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Vapouriser and mixer:
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Out of focus shot of ECUs:
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1990 827 Sterling manual
1990 Jaguar Sovereign 4 Litre on LPG
1969 MGC GT (currently hibernating)

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Post by richard moss » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:04 am

Updated pics - pretty much just needs the side skirts fitting and a respray. I've still not made up my mind on the colour scheme and whether or not to fit the TWR bumpers. I'm sure that mk1 alloy wheels fill the arches better than mk2 wheels do - they must have a different offset.

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1990 827 Sterling manual
1990 Jaguar Sovereign 4 Litre on LPG
1969 MGC GT (currently hibernating)

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Post by richard moss » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:05 am

27th July

Sunroof before and after (done thursday night):

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I also tinted the side glass at the wekend. Not for looks, but for comfort. The seats are dark blue leather and if there's one thing you learn after living in southern Spain for a few years, it's the value of tinted glass! Whilst on a roll, I did my wife's 216 cabrio for the same reasons, and my XJ6 will get the same treatment in due course.
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1990 827 Sterling manual
1990 Jaguar Sovereign 4 Litre on LPG
1969 MGC GT (currently hibernating)

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Post by richard moss » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:07 am

There's always something, isn't there?

This time it was the Electronic Idle Control Valve (EICV) which controls the fast idle - sticking at 1500 rpm and making driving difficult. The EICV on the Honda V6 is heated by coolant water, as well as having a solenoid in it. I have no idea how these two things work together, but I do know that the small coolant pipes get gunked up and the same happens to the solenoid - so I just cleaned it all out and exercised the solenoid a few times by connecting it up to the battery. It now seems to be behaving itself.

I've also advanced the ignition a couple of degrees, to take advantage of the different burn characteristics of LPG. This should give better performance and economy - although the car already does better than my 820 did with the same LPG kit on it. I am convinced that the T series does not take kindly to LPG (largely down to the lack of controllability on the ignition system. I'll be interested to see what happens now.
1990 827 Sterling manual
1990 Jaguar Sovereign 4 Litre on LPG
1969 MGC GT (currently hibernating)

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Post by richard moss » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:07 am

Well the EICV is still playing up. I cleaned it out, it was Ok for one day and now back to idling fast - so I've disconnected it. This means that it hunts from 600 - 1200 rpm on petrol but idles fine on gas - which is what I use anyway.

The cooling fans aren't working, either. I don't know if they ever did but they're not now (as I found towing a car trailer and my MG round the Wolverhampton ring road!). I have a manual over ride fix (bodge) in there at present but there is some problem with the power supply to the sensor on the radiator.
1990 827 Sterling manual
1990 Jaguar Sovereign 4 Litre on LPG
1969 MGC GT (currently hibernating)

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Post by richard moss » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:08 am

20th Aug

I still haven't fixed this as I've been working on the XJ6 or just working at work! Other than the idle problem and the cooling fan problem, it's driving nicely - although the front suspension is a bit clattery.

The front bottom balljoints on these are a weak spot, and can get noisy, as can the anti-roll bar drop links when the bushes get tired. I may just change the balljoints as a preventative measure, well worth a tenner a side and 2-3 hours work (for the pair). At least the bolts will all be nice and free after I had it apart to do the clutch (I would have done them then if I hadn't forgotten to buy the bits in advance).
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1990 827 Sterling manual
1990 Jaguar Sovereign 4 Litre on LPG
1969 MGC GT (currently hibernating)

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Post by richard moss » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:09 am

26 Aug

I've managed to fix my faulty cooling fans, I think. Both temp sensors on the rad had badly corroded wires and connectors. Each had one wire which had corroded right through and in one case the earth wire had just turned to copper dust all the way down its length - I've never seen one like it. After letting in a few inches of good wire we're back in business (I think).

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1990 827 Sterling manual
1990 Jaguar Sovereign 4 Litre on LPG
1969 MGC GT (currently hibernating)

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Post by richard moss » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:10 am

As most 800 owners will know, the bottom suspension balljoints are a bit of a weak area. Not having any idea of what the ones on my mk1 Sterling were like or how old they were, I decided to change them both "just in case".

Warning: please read your workshop manual before doing this job and use the correct torque settings etc. This guide is meant as an aid, not an alternative to, the workshop manual procedures. If you are not sure about what you're doing, ask someone who is.

The first thing to do is to open out the "stake" on the hub nut. With my Luxury pattern wheels, this is easily done but most will require you to remove the wheel, undo the staking and refit the wheel (you'll need the wheel on to remove the nut).
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The hub nut is 32mm and you will need a long bar to remove it because it will be very tight! The wheels will need to be chocked to stop the car rolling.
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Next step is to remove the ABS sensor cable mounting bolts (3 x 8mm) and the ABS sensor housing (2 x 10mm bolt). These can be very tight and a decent, hexagon headed socket reduces the risk of rounding the nuts.
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Remove the brake disc retaining screws (big Philips).
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Remove the brake caliper - 13mm bolt and 17mm locknut.
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Remove the caliper carrier - 2 x 17mm bolt - and then remove the brake disc. With the brake disc removed, the suspension arm is lighter and easier to work with - although the job can be done with the disc still attached.
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Remove the split pin from the castellated nut on the track rod end, undo the nut (17mm) and separate with a ball joint splitter.
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To allow the bottom arm more room to move, release the bottom bolt from the strut yoke ( 19mm both ends on mine - I'm sure the mk2 had different sizes).
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If you want to remove the driveshaft or change a CV joint/joint boot, then the only additional step is to remove the bolt from the the bottom of the damper where it fits the strut yoke (17mm?). The picture above shows my ratchet on the yoke top bolt.
The driveshaft can now be removed by levering away from the gearbox using the special tools (two, big, flat screwdrivers and a hammer in my case!). I didn't do this as my CVs and boots are in good nick - so expect one or both to fail very soon.

Undo the bottom balljoint nut - 22mm - and separate with a balljoint splitter.
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You now have two options for dealing with the top arm. I usally remove it along with the upright by removing the two 18mm nuts that mount the top arm to the inner wing, and then lowering the arm down.
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Alternatively, remove the 17mm nut from the upper balljoint and split it from the upright.
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The suspension upright can now be wiggled free and dumped on your bench. You can see the balljoint in this shot.
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Remove the circlip - it can be levered off with small flat screwdrivers if you don't have circlip pliers.
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The balljoint may now be pressed out with a hydraulic press or (my technique) thwacked out with a 2lb lump hammer. The new one is then pressed in or carefully tapped in with a copper or plastic mallet.
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Once the new balljoint is in, the circlip is refitted and the above procedure is reversed for reinstallation. A coat of Hamnmerite or similar will help keep the tinworm, at bay.
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Points to remember when refitting:

Don't tighten the strut yoke nuts until the car is back on its wheels.

Use a new split pin on the track rod end.

You should use a new hub nut - but I've always reused them if they're not badlly damaged.

Hub nut torque is 300lbft if memory serves - otherwise known as "as tight as you can get it!". You won't get near than unless the car is on its wheels and chocked. Restake the nut once tight.
1990 827 Sterling manual
1990 Jaguar Sovereign 4 Litre on LPG
1969 MGC GT (currently hibernating)

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