Rover 114 GSi

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Re: Rover 114 GSi

Post by The Flying Dutchman » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:26 pm

Phil - Nottingham wrote:The problem with disconecting the battery to reset/reboot the computer is that it the engine management setting will revert to limp home mode base settings which needs aRover garage or someone with data to retune it. Some times some of these can be partialy reset by the owner by warming up the engine switching off turning the ignition on and pressing the accelerator pedal down in a special sequence. Warning lights also on and off to signify whether its working or not.

This was the case with my 1987 820SE
I guess there must have been something else triggered in this case. Last time I had my battery disconnected on my '97 Si was in Spain when a part of my exhaust needed welding. I'm pretty sure I didn't limp home those 2000 Km's afterwards.
Also on my '95 Si it was disconnected several times, but never did anything like this happen.
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Re: Rover 114 GSi

Post by advent » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:50 pm

By limp home mode do you mean it won't accelerate or go faster then a certain speed?

As the car seams fine it behaves just like it used too.

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Re: Rover 114 GSi

Post by richard moss » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:45 pm

Phil,

That limp home mode problem was only an issue on single point injection mk1 820s, like yours. All multipoint 800s, and all other injected FWD Rovers, are OK.
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Re: Rover 114 GSi

Post by Phil - Nottingham » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:59 pm

Possibly - as I avoid anything electronic on cars these days (radio apart)I merely pointed this out. It is still seems a problem with many modern motors as I recall something recent in Car Mechanics when they tested batteries though which car they referred to did not interest me. I still think my 1987 820 is modern - it was when I had it. Perhaps the multipoint "SI"'s were different

The limp home mode differs with manufacturer any way as to which standard settings it reverts to - these may not be optimum for a particular engine but then car manufacturers and their aproved dealerships would say that anyway :roll:
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Re: Rover 114 GSi

Post by advent » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:02 pm

As i'm new to the car game and the game over owning a rover, how do you guys cope with serviceing and parts ect? or is'nt that a problem

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Re: Rover 114 GSi

Post by Phil - Nottingham » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:12 pm

Dead easy - avoid moder cars with electronics/cats
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Re: Rover 114 GSi

Post by richard moss » Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:40 pm

advent wrote:As i'm new to the car game and the game over owning a rover, how do you guys cope with serviceing and parts ect? or is'nt that a problem
There is little or no problem with bits. K series engines were used by many cars, ditto the engine management systems, and there are so many of these cars about that if you can't find something new, it will be available second hand. Land Rover, for example, used the K, KV6, T and L series engines, MEMS engine management system, Rover PG1 gearbox and shared a lot of electrics - so they're a ready source of parts. Rover 800 rear brakes are still in production for the MGTF, many electrical components are generic Bosch or Lucas stuff and so it goes on. The hardest parts to get can be some of the BMW diesel electronics - but even then it's not too bad.

Lazy "trade experts" will tell you that you "can't get the bits" and that is just nonsense. Many new cars are harder to support than a Rover (like the 1000s of VW/Audi cars laid up a few years back when you couldn't get hold of ignition coils).

Any competent garage can service them - there's no voodoo involved.
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Re: Rover 114 GSi

Post by advent » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:43 am

Hey guys this is a Belated xmas wish, hope you all had a good one :D

Im still strugleing with my rover 100 had a very embarassing time at a petrol station, stopped, filled up the car *didnt lock it, but had the keys on me*, payed, got back in and it wouldnt start. Was sat there like a plum lol and then i disconnected the battery but it didnt work, maybe i didnt leave it disconnected for long enough but i had to push start it in the end lol :(

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Re: Rover 114 GSi

Post by richard moss » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:44 pm

I'm pretty sure that the immobiliser has passive arming - if you switch off and remove the keys then the immobiliser will arm after a set period (30 seconds?). Locking and unlocking should do the job.
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Re: Rover 114 GSi

Post by advent » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:03 am

Hey i thought i had posted some pictures of my car but havnt :o


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P.S richard im going to get in touch with the company that was posted on this thread about a new remote locking device to try and see if i can sort it out once and for all :)

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