removing the sump - stuck

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neil.henderson
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removing the sump - stuck

Post by neil.henderson » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:14 pm

Hi,
I think that the big-ends, and possibly the main bearings in my P3 75 engine are too worn so I am removing the sump - so that I can measure & replace if necessary.
I am following the instructions in the P3 workshop manual that I got via this forum (very useful manual by the way :) ) so I have removed the LH steering rod as instructed and have removed all the bolts holding the sump in place - so the sump is now loose and rattling around, but I can't get it out!!! When I try to remove it the front part of the sump jams on the top of the centre of the steering bracket :x
Should the sump come out straight backwards down the centreline of the car & therefore clear the underside of the gearbox housing? Or should it be slid out to the the left or right somehow? I feel sure there must be a trick to this somewhere, so I'd love to hear what the trick is!
At the moment I'm considering undoing the engine bolts and borrowing an engine crane to lift the engine up and therfore give me space to slide the sump out - but this approach seems a bit drastic (or is it normal practice perhaps?).

Regards Neil Henderson

lakesrally

Re: removing the sump - stuck

Post by lakesrally » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:44 pm

Hi Neil, I think your final sentence is the way forward. I've only done this once, someone else might have other ideas but I'm sure that is what I had to do. You cannot raise the engine too far before contact with the bulkhead though. Best of luck.

neil.henderson
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Re: removing the sump - stuck

Post by neil.henderson » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:37 am

Hi,
Thanks for the feedback - though I finally figured out how to get the sump out without raising the engine. It's a matter of moving the rear (nearest gearbox) of the sump towards the driver side of the car, then lever the front part of the sump across to the same side - it is tight but so tight to cause any damage - the sump then drop straight down.
No doubt getting it back in will be a challenge buit I should have a couple of weeks before then............

Meanwhile I have removed the big-ends - they are worn - so now the search is on for new ones..............

Regards Neil

Bernie Hurren
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Re: removing the sump - stuck

Post by Bernie Hurren » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:56 am

Hi Neil

I just removed the sump from my P3 all I removed the Drop links with a good hammer and a pannel beating dolly and that allowed the sump to come down and back. Some of my nuts where siezed and the stud came out instead ( this seemed pretty common around the club when I mentioned it).
I am about to remove it again because I overtightened the nuts when putting it back and broke the cork Gasket I didn't realise how fragile they are and treated it like a rubber one.

Bernie

Chris C
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Re: removing the sump - stuck

Post by Chris C » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:46 pm

Hi Neil

Just spotted various size sets of Big end bearings on Ebay (UK)
suitable for Rover P3 60 & 75
Item number: 350590424305
Item number: 251138824037
Item number: 251138824110

Contact details:

PIERRE JANUSZ
20, Downton Avenue
Streatham,
London
SW2 3TR
United Kingdom

Phone: 07860276791
Fax: 020-86969645
Email: pjemail@aol.com

Regards, Chris C.
Chris Cartmell - DVLA Liaison Officer
Rover Sport Register

1939 - Rover 14 Saloon (P2)
1975 - Rover 2200 Saloon (P6)

neil.henderson
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Re: removing the sump - stuck

Post by neil.henderson » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:44 am

Hi Chris,
Do you know Pierre Janusz as a supplier of Rover parts? I've been in contact with him & he claims to have what I need (which is great news, so thanks for your idea!!), but I have never dealt with him before.
I would appreciate some comments/feedback if you know him as a supplier before I commit to ordering from him:-)

Thanks Neil

lakesrally

Re: removing the sump - stuck

Post by lakesrally » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:41 am

Hi Neil, I've had no dealings with Pierre but he is a contributor on the rovernet email group run by the Canadian Rover club, which is predominatly P6 enthusiasts, and I've seen no bad reports about him.

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Re: removing the sump - stuck

Post by Chris C » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:26 am

Hi Neil,
Looking on Ebay UK, he looks like a genuine seller of Rover parts with
a 100% positive feedback, and rated as a "Top-rated seller".
Have a look at the feedback on Ebay yourself.
Or just Google - voking2000 (his Ebay ID) and see the feedback

If you need gasket sets for the P3, I've got a supplier who got them.
Top overhaul set for P3 = £45 (70 AUD) plus postage
Let me know, I'll email you the details
Rgds, Chris C.
Chris Cartmell - DVLA Liaison Officer
Rover Sport Register

1939 - Rover 14 Saloon (P2)
1975 - Rover 2200 Saloon (P6)

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